From Joe at kuesers.net Mon Apr 2 08:30:37 2007 From: Joe at kuesers.net (Joe Kueser) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 07:30:37 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] Lots Getting Done This Week Message-ID: <36B8EBB9-65BD-47C4-91E5-CBC45A528DAE@kuesers.net> I'm taking some time off work this week to recover from my Korea trip (taking Monday, Tuesday, and Friday off...except for an interview on Monday). During this time, I plan on doing a whole lot on the BookCarnival site. First I will finalize some of the documents I have been working on, then I will tie together some of the code that we currently have, and hopefully by the end of the week, you will be able to register, login (already working...thanks Josh), and play one of the games. I'll take my time getting the look and feel worked out, and concentrate on getting the site functional first. Pretty can come later. Thanks for your help, guys. Joe From cgallemore at gmail.com Mon Apr 2 09:32:30 2007 From: cgallemore at gmail.com (Chad Gallemore) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 08:32:30 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] Lots Getting Done This Week In-Reply-To: <36B8EBB9-65BD-47C4-91E5-CBC45A528DAE@kuesers.net> References: <36B8EBB9-65BD-47C4-91E5-CBC45A528DAE@kuesers.net> Message-ID: Do we have a document that lists some of the functionality that we need done. I got the amazon search done (with Josh's help), I don't know if you have tried it out yet. I will try and add a text box with a submit button so you can type in your search and get the results back. What type of details about the books do we want to list. I was thinking the title, author, description, image, used price, new price. What do you think? I was also thinking about allowing a user to search for similar books, what are your thoughts on this. I'll try and get some of this done this week so I can jump on something else. -Chad On 4/2/07, Joe Kueser wrote: > > I'm taking some time off work this week to recover from my Korea trip > (taking Monday, Tuesday, and Friday off...except for an interview on > Monday). > > During this time, I plan on doing a whole lot on the BookCarnival site. > > First I will finalize some of the documents I have been working on, > then I will tie together some of the code that we currently have, and > hopefully by the end of the week, you will be able to register, login > (already working...thanks Josh), and play one of the games. > > I'll take my time getting the look and feel worked out, and > concentrate on getting the site functional first. Pretty can come > later. > > Thanks for your help, guys. > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Bookcarnival-code mailing list > Bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bookcarnival-code > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/bookcarnival-code/attachments/20070402/015c0a27/attachment.html From Joe at kuesers.net Mon Apr 2 17:28:43 2007 From: Joe at kuesers.net (Joe Kueser) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 16:28:43 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] Lots Getting Done This Week In-Reply-To: References: <36B8EBB9-65BD-47C4-91E5-CBC45A528DAE@kuesers.net> Message-ID: <5F466515-1E51-42E4-95E9-B37B41EFFE82@kuesers.net> Chad, One of my chores this week is to complete that document, but here's a quick list of things that need to be done over the next few weeks: * Research, choose, and implement a credit card service (to pay for "tickets" and "raffle tickets") So far I'm leaning toward a mostly home-spun shopping cart (just because that part will be very simple) with either authorize.com or paypal as the payment source. PayPal may be the easiest, simply because they have a good API that will notify your application when a payment has been completed. * Implement the ticketing system. For now, I think this will be as simple as linking a user to a number of tickets, with an easy way to add or subtract tickets, and check the balance of tickets. * Implement the raffle system. This could be a lot of fun. It would tie users to raffle tickets, have the ability to put an item up for raffle (a book, typically, with a picture of that book) and have a way of randomly selecting a winner. * Implement the tilt-a-whirl game. I've already started on this, and will hopefully be done with it before the end of the week. I am also finalizing the proposal, completing the database docs, completing the wireframes, project research, web page flow docs, and writing some letters to publishers regarding the site (asking for free books to raffle off and generally drumming up support) so if I don't finish the tilt-a-whirl game this week, it's not a huge deal. As far as how the Amazon search will be used, at this point, I see it being used in the games only (for now). When a user is offering a book, they can enter partial information about the book (the ISBN, title, whatever) and we can use your Amazon search to find the book and fill in the details. Right now, we'll only need title, author, description, image, and genre. I'm not even sure Amazon has genre as one of their fields, so that could be a free-text field tied in to a database for auto-complete. Ideally, the Amazon search would be done in an Ajax-ie sort of way, so the form is just magically filled in for them and they can say "Wow! Cool!" We'll probably want to meet early next week to talk about what has been done and what still needs to be done. Joe On Apr 2, 2007, at 8:32 AM, Chad Gallemore wrote: > Do we have a document that lists some of the functionality that we > need done. I got the amazon search done (with Josh's help), I > don't know if you have tried it out yet. I will try and add a text > box with a submit button so you can type in your search and get the > results back. What type of details about the books do we want to > list. I was thinking the title, author, description, image, used > price, new price. What do you think? I was also thinking about > allowing a user to search for similar books, what are your thoughts > on this. I'll try and get some of this done this week so I can > jump on something else. > > -Chad > > On 4/2/07, Joe Kueser wrote: > I'm taking some time off work this week to recover from my Korea trip > (taking Monday, Tuesday, and Friday off...except for an interview on > Monday). > > During this time, I plan on doing a whole lot on the BookCarnival > site. > > First I will finalize some of the documents I have been working on, > then I will tie together some of the code that we currently have, and > hopefully by the end of the week, you will be able to register, login > (already working...thanks Josh), and play one of the games. > > I'll take my time getting the look and feel worked out, and > concentrate on getting the site functional first. Pretty can come > later. > > Thanks for your help, guys. > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Bookcarnival-code mailing list > Bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bookcarnival-code > > _______________________________________________ > Bookcarnival-code mailing list > Bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bookcarnival-code -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/bookcarnival-code/attachments/20070402/ec938a7d/attachment.html From joe at kuesers.net Thu Apr 5 22:18:26 2007 From: joe at kuesers.net (Joe Kueser) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 21:18:26 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] Tying Things Together Message-ID: <4A4CD9BB-498D-40AC-9659-9AFAB24252FA@kuesers.net> I've started tying things together, and filling in some gaps. It's a little messy, but I've got it so you can: 1) Create a game (this will normally be an admin-only task) 2) Create a game instance (currently you can pick which game the game instance is based on, and it is unlimited. Eventually we'll limit it per game) I will be tying in Chad's Amazon search this weekend. It's REAL easy to use. The way I intend on having it work is that you will enter the ISBN and we will automagically populate the rest of the fields in the form. I also got a basic "welcome" page done that pulls in Josh's login form. Finally, I've started on a user home page sort of thing. I'm not ready to check any of this fun stuff in yet, but will check in parts of it tomorrow. Then Monday or Tuesday we can meet to figure out where to go next. You know what...I'll go ahead and check in the welcome page and user home page parts. Those might be good places for you guys to play around if you want to. My thinking there being that if a user is logged in when they go to the site's root, they'll be taken to their home page. If they are not logged in, they will stay at the welcome page. The welcome page will just give some basic information about the site, and have links to other public areas (like register, login, contact us, and get involved). The user's home page can for now just show their book exchange statuses, # of tickets, etc. Oh, we also need to worry about the raffle, tickets, and credit card stuff soon. By the way, I searched for "ruby amazon plugin" to figure out how to install that puppy, and our mailing list was the #2 hit. Sweet! Thanks for your help. Joe From joe at kuesers.net Sun Apr 8 09:22:13 2007 From: joe at kuesers.net (Joe Kueser) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 08:22:13 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] Fwd: Rate These Templates References: Message-ID: <09ADFD8E-B3B2-4C30-B993-087246F96EC6@kuesers.net> Well, I tried to send this yesterday, but it didn't seem to go through. (I didn't see it in my inbox or in the list's archives) So, let's try this again! Joe Begin forwarded message: > From: Joe Kueser > Date: April 7, 2007 4:01:04 PM CDT > To: bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org > Subject: Rate These Templates > > I'm trying to save us a little work by finding an existing template > we can use for the site. > > Please rank these from 1 to 6. 1 being your favorite, 6 being your > least favorite. (Currently they are in alphabetical order, so you > can't use that :-) > > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/integral > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/isometric > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/newfangled > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/theacmegroup > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/thunder > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/traditionalist > > Or if you have other ideas, I'd love to hear that. > > In case you can't figure it out from my 6 choices there, I'm > basically looking for clean and colorful. > > Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/bookcarnival-code/attachments/20070408/da37bd78/attachment-0001.html From joe at kuesers.net Sat Apr 7 17:01:04 2007 From: joe at kuesers.net (Joe Kueser) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 16:01:04 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] Rate These Templates Message-ID: I'm trying to save us a little work by finding an existing template we can use for the site. Please rank these from 1 to 6. 1 being your favorite, 6 being your least favorite. (Currently they are in alphabetical order, so you can't use that :-) http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/integral http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/isometric http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/newfangled http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/theacmegroup http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/thunder http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/traditionalist Or if you have other ideas, I'd love to hear that. In case you can't figure it out from my 6 choices there, I'm basically looking for clean and colorful. Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/bookcarnival-code/attachments/20070407/1b9424cc/attachment.html From cgallemore at gmail.com Sun Apr 8 11:55:32 2007 From: cgallemore at gmail.com (Chad Gallemore) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 10:55:32 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] Rate These Templates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 1. Thunder 2. Integral 3. Traditionalist 4. New Fangled 5. The Acme Group 6. Isometric On 4/7/07, Joe Kueser wrote: > > I'm trying to save us a little work by finding an existing template we can > use for the site. > Please rank these from 1 to 6. 1 being your favorite, 6 being your least > favorite. (Currently they are in alphabetical order, so you can't use that > :-) > > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/integral > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/isometric > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/newfangled > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/theacmegroup > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/thunder > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/traditionalist > > Or if you have other ideas, I'd love to hear that. > > In case you can't figure it out from my 6 choices there, I'm basically > looking for clean and colorful. > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > Bookcarnival-code mailing list > Bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bookcarnival-code > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/bookcarnival-code/attachments/20070408/28e645d7/attachment.html From joe at kuesers.net Sun Apr 8 23:07:55 2007 From: joe at kuesers.net (Joe Kueser) Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 22:07:55 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] Tying Things Together In-Reply-To: <4A4CD9BB-498D-40AC-9659-9AFAB24252FA@kuesers.net> References: <4A4CD9BB-498D-40AC-9659-9AFAB24252FA@kuesers.net> Message-ID: Ok, I lied. I wasn't able to get much of anything done this weekend, because I had some real school work to do, and my wife and kids kept me busy the rest of the time. I do plan on spending 2 to 4 hours a night, every night for the next 3 weeks working on this stuff, so we should see some stuff shaping up pretty quickly. Let's plan on meeting some time during the week to get in sync. I have a sprint review Monday, and sprint planning on Tuesday, but am free the rest of the week. (There is an Agitar follow-up scheduled on Friday that I should probably go to as well.) Joe On Apr 5, 2007, at 9:18 PM, Joe Kueser wrote: > I've started tying things together, and filling in some gaps. > > It's a little messy, but I've got it so you can: > 1) Create a game (this will normally be an admin-only task) > 2) Create a game instance (currently you can pick which game the > game instance is based on, and it is unlimited. Eventually we'll > limit it per game) > > I will be tying in Chad's Amazon search this weekend. It's REAL easy > to use. The way I intend on having it work is that you will enter > the ISBN and we will automagically populate the rest of the fields in > the form. > > I also got a basic "welcome" page done that pulls in Josh's login > form. > > Finally, I've started on a user home page sort of thing. > > I'm not ready to check any of this fun stuff in yet, but will check > in parts of it tomorrow. Then Monday or Tuesday we can meet to > figure out where to go next. > > You know what...I'll go ahead and check in the welcome page and user > home page parts. Those might be good places for you guys to play > around if you want to. My thinking there being that if a user is > logged in when they go to the site's root, they'll be taken to their > home page. If they are not logged in, they will stay at the welcome > page. > > The welcome page will just give some basic information about the > site, and have links to other public areas (like register, login, > contact us, and get involved). > > The user's home page can for now just show their book exchange > statuses, # of tickets, etc. > > Oh, we also need to worry about the raffle, tickets, and credit card > stuff soon. > > By the way, I searched for "ruby amazon plugin" to figure out how to > install that puppy, and our mailing list was the #2 hit. Sweet! > > Thanks for your help. > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Bookcarnival-code mailing list > Bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bookcarnival-code From jhoover6672000 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 9 12:27:55 2007 From: jhoover6672000 at yahoo.com (Josh Hoover) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 09:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] Tying Things Together Message-ID: <217817.30686.qm@web37212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Shall we meet on Wed. this week during lunch? Sooner the better since it's been a while. I've been slacking on it lately. ----- Original Message ---- From: Joe Kueser To: bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2007 10:07:55 PM Subject: Re: [Bookcarnival-code] Tying Things Together Ok, I lied. I wasn't able to get much of anything done this weekend, because I had some real school work to do, and my wife and kids kept me busy the rest of the time. I do plan on spending 2 to 4 hours a night, every night for the next 3 weeks working on this stuff, so we should see some stuff shaping up pretty quickly. Let's plan on meeting some time during the week to get in sync. I have a sprint review Monday, and sprint planning on Tuesday, but am free the rest of the week. (There is an Agitar follow-up scheduled on Friday that I should probably go to as well.) Joe On Apr 5, 2007, at 9:18 PM, Joe Kueser wrote: > I've started tying things together, and filling in some gaps. > > It's a little messy, but I've got it so you can: > 1) Create a game (this will normally be an admin-only task) > 2) Create a game instance (currently you can pick which game the > game instance is based on, and it is unlimited. Eventually we'll > limit it per game) > > I will be tying in Chad's Amazon search this weekend. It's REAL easy > to use. The way I intend on having it work is that you will enter > the ISBN and we will automagically populate the rest of the fields in > the form. > > I also got a basic "welcome" page done that pulls in Josh's login > form. > > Finally, I've started on a user home page sort of thing. > > I'm not ready to check any of this fun stuff in yet, but will check > in parts of it tomorrow. Then Monday or Tuesday we can meet to > figure out where to go next. > > You know what...I'll go ahead and check in the welcome page and user > home page parts. Those might be good places for you guys to play > around if you want to. My thinking there being that if a user is > logged in when they go to the site's root, they'll be taken to their > home page. If they are not logged in, they will stay at the welcome > page. > > The welcome page will just give some basic information about the > site, and have links to other public areas (like register, login, > contact us, and get involved). > > The user's home page can for now just show their book exchange > statuses, # of tickets, etc. > > Oh, we also need to worry about the raffle, tickets, and credit card > stuff soon. > > By the way, I searched for "ruby amazon plugin" to figure out how to > install that puppy, and our mailing list was the #2 hit. Sweet! > > Thanks for your help. > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Bookcarnival-code mailing list > Bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bookcarnival-code _______________________________________________ Bookcarnival-code mailing list Bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bookcarnival-code From joe at kuesers.net Tue Apr 10 00:44:29 2007 From: joe at kuesers.net (Joe Kueser) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 23:44:29 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] Got AJAX Book Lookup Working Message-ID: <7B717636-8698-4595-A3E9-51767B61A22B@kuesers.net> Things are still not perfect, but now you can at least see what's going down. First go here: http://localhost:3000/ and log in. (or create a user, or whatever) Then go here: http://localhost:3000/game/ and create a new game with name "Tilt-A- Whirl" and whatever rules, etc. you want to give it. then go to: http://localhost:3000/tiltawhirl/ And create a new game instance. Pick "Tilt-A-Whirl" for your game, and give it whatever description, etc. you want. Finally, that should take you to http://localhost:3000/tiltawhirl/ offer/1 Enter the ISBN for the nearest book and hit the "find" button. It should use Chad's Amazon service to grab that book and populate the fields. (Right now, it is assumed that the ISBN will uniquely identify a book, so the first book in the list is returned.) Joe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/bookcarnival-code/attachments/20070409/1af90a86/attachment.html From joe at kuesers.net Wed Apr 11 20:48:49 2007 From: joe at kuesers.net (Joe Kueser) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:48:49 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] New Ruby IDE (NetBeans!?!) Message-ID: I think it's a little weird, and a little telling that Sun has released a Ruby plugin for the NetBeans IDE. http://www.ftponline.com/channels/java/2007%5F04/jwaters2/ It's a weird thing going on with Sun... An article from a Sun certified developer on developing a MVC app with Rails (with a few comparisons to J2EE) http://www.ftponline.com/channels/web/2007_03/dvohra/default.aspx Next, another article on Sun including extensive Ruby support in NetBeans http://www.ftponline.com/weblogger/forum.aspx? ID=13&DATE=03/13/2007&blog=#729 Then a mailing list that normally informs me of new Java technologies sent me this article on building a Wiki with Rails: http://www.devx.com/webdev/Article/34200 Finally, the plot thickens... Sun hired two developers of the open source JRuby (a Java-based Ruby interpreter) and are paying them to work full-time to work on JRuby. http://jruby.codehaus.org/ Why is the Java community, Sun included, pushing Ruby on Rails? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/bookcarnival-code/attachments/20070411/0b11da9e/attachment-0001.html From joe at kuesers.net Thu Apr 12 07:53:55 2007 From: joe at kuesers.net (Joe Kueser) Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:53:55 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] Rate These Templates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0FB19B32-F810-42AA-AE0E-5E90472A8253@kuesers.net> I really like the template that the Ruby site uses. We could borrow some of the colors from there, though the layout will be different. http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ruby-from-other-languages/ to-ruby-from-java/ Oh, good article there too :-) On Apr 8, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Chad Gallemore wrote: > 1. Thunder > 2. Integral > 3. Traditionalist > 4. New Fangled > 5. The Acme Group > 6. Isometric > > On 4/7/07, Joe Kueser < joe at kuesers.net> wrote: > I'm trying to save us a little work by finding an existing template > we can use for the site. > > Please rank these from 1 to 6. 1 being your favorite, 6 being your > least favorite. (Currently they are in alphabetical order, so you > can't use that :-) > > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/integral > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/isometric > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/newfangled > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/theacmegroup > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/thunder > http://www.freecsstemplates.org/preview/traditionalist > > Or if you have other ideas, I'd love to hear that. > > In case you can't figure it out from my 6 choices there, I'm > basically looking for clean and colorful. > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > Bookcarnival-code mailing list > Bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bookcarnival-code > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/bookcarnival-code/attachments/20070412/f0b901a4/attachment.html From joe at kuesers.net Sun Apr 15 11:43:15 2007 From: joe at kuesers.net (Joe Kueser) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:43:15 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] How Should Raffles Work? Message-ID: <3AD26900-12D4-49CB-96B5-9FB069B81D27@kuesers.net> I've been giving the raffles a little thought, and here's what I came up with. First, as a reminder, here's the idea of what the raffles are. Once a week, the site will raffle off a new book, best seller, rare book, or autographed book. The new and best seller books will be easy, we can just pick them of from the local book store, or from Amazon.com. We may even be able to swing a discount from either of these. The rare and autographed books will come later as the site establishes itself, and will likely be donations from publishers or members. Members will purchase raffle tickets, at $1 each. At the end of the week, we will pick the winner. We could either create a program that will do this for us, or put a bunch of tickets into a hat or tumbler or whatever and pick it that way. Computers aren't very random, so picking the names from a hat would seem more fair. We could even go so far as getting real raffle tickets and a tumbler and take pictures of the drawing, etc. Once the site gets big enough, we could have multiple raffles per week, and even have live raffles, where we sell real tickets at schools, book stores, church events, etc. That's when we start pulling in real money, and are really able to make a difference for literacy organizations, schools, and libraries. Imagine having 10 books up in a raffle, and selling tickets for the raffles world-wide, both on and off-line. If we had even just 250 members, and each of them sold on average 10 raffle tickets, we just made $2,500 for some literacy organization. Ok, back to reality for a second. Once a month, the proceeds from the raffle would go to the site. This would pay for the web hosting, software or clipart or whatever we need to buy, and maybe a few bucks as a part-time salary for "employees". In short, it would go into the site's bank account, and would be used as needed. The rest of the month, 100% of the proceeds would go to a literacy organization, school, or library of the winner's choice (though their choice could, and often will be "you pick"). So, what would the database need for these raffles? Here's what I have so far. A table called "Raffles" with the following columns: - ID - Item Name - Item Description - Item Image - Start Date - End Date - Proceed Designation - Proceeds Total (could be derived from another table) - Winner ID - Status ID A table called "Raffle Status" with the following columns: - ID - Status Name (Open, Close, Item Sent, etc.) A table called "Raffle Transactions" with the following columns: - ID (ticket id) - Raffle ID - User ID - Date Whatever shopping cart we come up with would have a raffle ticket as an item for sale, for $1 each. Users could purchase as many raffle tickets as they want. Another option would be to allow a user to convert game tickets to raffle tickets. Maybe 5 game tickets for 1 raffle ticket, or something along those lines. What do you think? Joe From joe at kuesers.net Sun Apr 15 11:48:56 2007 From: joe at kuesers.net (Joe Kueser) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:48:56 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] State of the Project Message-ID: <217EF20B-6495-439D-A381-F8069E525150@kuesers.net> I was thinking about this the other day, but am not sure if I ever sent it out. I'm too lazy to check my inbox or sent items, so I'll assume I didn't. I was thinking that it probably doesn't make sense to bring the site live until it is truly ready to be live. Before that happens, I think we need: 1) At least 3 games in place 2) The tickets and raffle tickets set up 3) A way to accept credit card purchases 4) A nonprofit organization, and its bank account set up 5) A solid site. I have no timetable for all of this. I think the site should go live when its ready, whether that's 6 weeks from now or 6 months from now. Since we're all still learning, I think it would be a great idea to take some time to pair/group program on this stuff. Maybe instead of meeting (sometimes) once a week, we should meet a few days a week over lunch? Or have like a 3 or 4 hour meeting one night a week? Maybe take one or two areas a week and focus on working together to get it done. What do you think? Joe From cgallemore at gmail.com Sun Apr 15 20:14:20 2007 From: cgallemore at gmail.com (Chad Gallemore) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:14:20 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] State of the Project In-Reply-To: <217EF20B-6495-439D-A381-F8069E525150@kuesers.net> References: <217EF20B-6495-439D-A381-F8069E525150@kuesers.net> Message-ID: Sounds good to me. I like the idea of pairing up and meeting a little more frequent. I up for anything. On 4/15/07, Joe Kueser wrote: > > I was thinking about this the other day, but am not sure if I ever > sent it out. I'm too lazy to check my inbox or sent items, so I'll > assume I didn't. > > I was thinking that it probably doesn't make sense to bring the site > live until it is truly ready to be live. Before that happens, I > think we need: > 1) At least 3 games in place > 2) The tickets and raffle tickets set up > 3) A way to accept credit card purchases > 4) A nonprofit organization, and its bank account set up > 5) A solid site. > > I have no timetable for all of this. I think the site should go live > when its ready, whether that's 6 weeks from now or 6 months from now. > > Since we're all still learning, I think it would be a great idea to > take some time to pair/group program on this stuff. Maybe instead of > meeting (sometimes) once a week, we should meet a few days a week > over lunch? Or have like a 3 or 4 hour meeting one night a week? > Maybe take one or two areas a week and focus on working together to > get it done. > > What do you think? > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Bookcarnival-code mailing list > Bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bookcarnival-code > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/bookcarnival-code/attachments/20070415/0ef3deac/attachment.html From jhoover6672000 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 18 16:36:47 2007 From: jhoover6672000 at yahoo.com (Josh Hoover) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] State of the Project Message-ID: <840047.12830.qm@web37213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Joe, Sorry for the lack of communication. I know for the guys on the NCT 1 team here at Gestalt, it's been a wicked past couple of weeks and will continue to be until JavaOne happens (May 7th.) For me, while I've been pretty busy at work, I've also been busy moving and getting into the new house. Things are finally starting to settle down so I can definitely start to focus more on this project. I'm all for meeting during lunch multiple times a week and coding. If it's just you and me for the next couple of weeks, that should be fine. Josh ----- Original Message ---- From: Joe Kueser To: bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:48:56 AM Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] State of the Project I was thinking about this the other day, but am not sure if I ever sent it out. I'm too lazy to check my inbox or sent items, so I'll assume I didn't. I was thinking that it probably doesn't make sense to bring the site live until it is truly ready to be live. Before that happens, I think we need: 1) At least 3 games in place 2) The tickets and raffle tickets set up 3) A way to accept credit card purchases 4) A nonprofit organization, and its bank account set up 5) A solid site. I have no timetable for all of this. I think the site should go live when its ready, whether that's 6 weeks from now or 6 months from now. Since we're all still learning, I think it would be a great idea to take some time to pair/group program on this stuff. Maybe instead of meeting (sometimes) once a week, we should meet a few days a week over lunch? Or have like a 3 or 4 hour meeting one night a week? Maybe take one or two areas a week and focus on working together to get it done. What do you think? Joe _______________________________________________ Bookcarnival-code mailing list Bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bookcarnival-code From joe at kuesers.net Wed Apr 18 16:49:27 2007 From: joe at kuesers.net (Joe Kueser) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:49:27 -0500 Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] State of the Project In-Reply-To: <840047.12830.qm@web37213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <840047.12830.qm@web37213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <387F5C52-6395-498D-BAE5-3E1C735EC2FB@kuesers.net> No worries. Work has to come first. Work, then family, then the project :-D As far as the school project goes, my professor is impressed with what has been done so far, and sees a lot of logic in waiting until the site is ready and the nonprofit is in place before going live. I have a handful of things that I want to get done before turning the project in and calling it "done", but that's not anything for anyone to worry about but me. It probably helps that he's a big fan of the idea. On a different note: I picked up a pretty cool book that will help me in putting together a RoR brownbagger. "Rails for Java Developers". So if you want to sign me up for a RoR brownbagger, go for it. Maybe we should wait until JavaOne is done so the NCT guys can participate too. I figure I can run through the creation of a super simple Rails application (a 15 minute address book or something), and then do a Java to Rails comparison. Joe On Apr 18, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Josh Hoover wrote: > Hi Joe, > > Sorry for the lack of communication. I know for the guys on the > NCT 1 team here at Gestalt, it's been a wicked past couple of weeks > and will continue to be until JavaOne happens (May 7th.) For me, > while I've been pretty busy at work, I've also been busy moving and > getting into the new house. Things are finally starting to settle > down so I can definitely start to focus more on this project. > > I'm all for meeting during lunch multiple times a week and coding. > If it's just you and me for the next couple of weeks, that should > be fine. > > Josh > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Joe Kueser > To: bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org > Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:48:56 AM > Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] State of the Project > > I was thinking about this the other day, but am not sure if I ever > sent it out. I'm too lazy to check my inbox or sent items, so I'll > assume I didn't. > > I was thinking that it probably doesn't make sense to bring the site > live until it is truly ready to be live. Before that happens, I > think we need: > 1) At least 3 games in place > 2) The tickets and raffle tickets set up > 3) A way to accept credit card purchases > 4) A nonprofit organization, and its bank account set up > 5) A solid site. > > I have no timetable for all of this. I think the site should go live > when its ready, whether that's 6 weeks from now or 6 months from now. > > Since we're all still learning, I think it would be a great idea to > take some time to pair/group program on this stuff. Maybe instead of > meeting (sometimes) once a week, we should meet a few days a week > over lunch? Or have like a 3 or 4 hour meeting one night a week? > Maybe take one or two areas a week and focus on working together to > get it done. > > What do you think? > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Bookcarnival-code mailing list > Bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bookcarnival-code > > > From jhoover6672000 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 18 16:54:14 2007 From: jhoover6672000 at yahoo.com (Josh Hoover) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] State of the Project Message-ID: <780476.18758.qm@web37213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sounds good. Can you come up with an outline for the brown bagger and then we'll pick a date that looks good? I'll also provide tissues for after the brown bagger, when all of those with Java web dev experience shed many tears. ----- Original Message ---- From: Joe Kueser To: Josh Hoover Cc: bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:49:27 PM Subject: Re: [Bookcarnival-code] State of the Project No worries. Work has to come first. Work, then family, then the project :-D As far as the school project goes, my professor is impressed with what has been done so far, and sees a lot of logic in waiting until the site is ready and the nonprofit is in place before going live. I have a handful of things that I want to get done before turning the project in and calling it "done", but that's not anything for anyone to worry about but me. It probably helps that he's a big fan of the idea. On a different note: I picked up a pretty cool book that will help me in putting together a RoR brownbagger. "Rails for Java Developers". So if you want to sign me up for a RoR brownbagger, go for it. Maybe we should wait until JavaOne is done so the NCT guys can participate too. I figure I can run through the creation of a super simple Rails application (a 15 minute address book or something), and then do a Java to Rails comparison. Joe On Apr 18, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Josh Hoover wrote: > Hi Joe, > > Sorry for the lack of communication. I know for the guys on the > NCT 1 team here at Gestalt, it's been a wicked past couple of weeks > and will continue to be until JavaOne happens (May 7th.) For me, > while I've been pretty busy at work, I've also been busy moving and > getting into the new house. Things are finally starting to settle > down so I can definitely start to focus more on this project. > > I'm all for meeting during lunch multiple times a week and coding. > If it's just you and me for the next couple of weeks, that should > be fine. > > Josh > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Joe Kueser > To: bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org > Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:48:56 AM > Subject: [Bookcarnival-code] State of the Project > > I was thinking about this the other day, but am not sure if I ever > sent it out. I'm too lazy to check my inbox or sent items, so I'll > assume I didn't. > > I was thinking that it probably doesn't make sense to bring the site > live until it is truly ready to be live. Before that happens, I > think we need: > 1) At least 3 games in place > 2) The tickets and raffle tickets set up > 3) A way to accept credit card purchases > 4) A nonprofit organization, and its bank account set up > 5) A solid site. > > I have no timetable for all of this. I think the site should go live > when its ready, whether that's 6 weeks from now or 6 months from now. > > Since we're all still learning, I think it would be a great idea to > take some time to pair/group program on this stuff. Maybe instead of > meeting (sometimes) once a week, we should meet a few days a week > over lunch? Or have like a 3 or 4 hour meeting one night a week? > Maybe take one or two areas a week and focus on working together to > get it done. > > What do you think? > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > Bookcarnival-code mailing list > Bookcarnival-code at rubyforge.org > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/bookcarnival-code > > >